Author Topic: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card  (Read 22290 times)

tjrobinson

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Whilst using my Canon 60D (Firmware 1.1.1, ML 2.3) I noticed it had apparently frozen up. Unfortunately I can't remember exactly what I then did, but it was probably a good 30 seconds or more before I removed the battery and card. I've not been able to start it up again since. I was taking a 15 second exposure at the time, so didn't notice it had frozen immediately. I'm worried I may have fried it?

I'm seeing nothing at all on the rear screen, LCD display or in the viewfinder, no beeps or clicks, no smells.

The only sign of life I can get is with one of the cards I have Magic Lantern installed on - I get either a single flash when I insert the card or occasionally a double flash - it does this every time but only with that card. No other card does anything at any time. I originally copied Magic Lantern onto two identical 16GB cards. The other card (same version of ML, same card manufacturer) does nothing.

I've copied the contents of both onto my computer the only data difference I can see is that the card which causes a flash when inserted has the SETTINGS folder on it, and some photos. I've even tried copying the contents of the card that does cause a flash onto another card - but the second card won't cause a flash. Very weird.

I've tried the following:

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 05:15:07 PM »
Configuration file, if it helps:

# Magic Lantern v2.3.60D.111 (7fee07c3b461+ (unified) tip)
# Built on 2012-07-23 16:06:13 by [email protected]
# Configuration saved on 2014/09/21 21:38:39
menu.upside.down = 0
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quick.review.allow.zoom = 0
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af.frame.autohide = 1
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dof.preview.sticky = 0
bv.needed.by.av = 0
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shutter.display.degrees = 0
battery.drain.rate.rev = 209
display.dont.mirror = 1
lcdsensor.wakeup = 1
electronic.level = 0
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disp.mode.x = 197
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zoom.disable.x10 = 0
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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2014, 05:18:59 PM »
for the blink test and the other diagnostic tools to work, you need to have made the card "bootable" (if you reformatted the card, it is no longer bootable, if you never installed ML on the card, it is also not "bootable"), EOSCard and macboot utilities can do this for you.

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I've even tried copying the contents of the card that does cause a flash onto another card - but the second card won't cause a flash. Very weird.
same reason as above, the card needs to be "bootable"

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2014, 05:22:04 PM »
Remove card (an empty one, preferable), remove battery, switch dial to M.
Insert card into cardreader, format card using NTFS or any other filesystem but not FAT (=FAT, FAT16, FAT32, FAT64/exFAT).
Insert card into cam, insert battery and startup.
Expected: Cam will tell you to format the card. Do so and restart.

Post results.

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2014, 05:24:13 PM »
also, have you tried starting in C mode (with no card)?

you might have a bad property saved in NVRAM (see: http://wiki.magiclantern.fm/unbricking)

if you can get into the Canon menu in C mode, reset all camera settings

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2014, 08:27:00 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions.

Using EOScard to make it bootable, I can now get the LED blink test to work.

I've re-tried the Startup log a couple of times but there's no log file created on the card.

walter_schulz, I tried your steps but nothing happened. I wasn't prompted to format the card. I tried this in M and C modes.

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2014, 08:36:48 PM »
Using EOScard to make it bootable, I can now get the LED blink test to work.
That's a good sign.

PM a1ex, he's pretty much the only person with enough expertise to help you from this point

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2014, 02:40:21 PM »
I'm working with a1ex over PM. There's been some progress - we've managed to get a ROM dump.

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2014, 02:44:37 PM »
Next step is this, if I can find someone local to help:

http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=13070.0

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2014, 02:50:48 PM »
Why someone local?
And if it is really neccessary: Why not telling your location?

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2014, 03:19:48 PM »
Why someone local?
You need another camera to decode the messages. Though, I should think it might be possible simply record a video with a smartphone or webcam and post it, and let someone here decode it.

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Re: Bricked 60D - no sign of life except for the SD card light with one ML card
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2014, 06:19:51 PM »
Is anyone able to compile this for a 60D (1.1.1)? I'm a C# software developer but I'm a bit lost when it comes to C (and the related ecosystem).

I'm in Berkshire, England - if anyone happens to be nearby!

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Update: compilation problems now solved

I've got this far, what might cause this error?

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[email protected]:~/magic-lantern$ make
make -C  /home/tjrobinson/magic-lantern/platform/50D.109
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/tjrobinson/magic-lantern/platform/50D.109'
[ VERSION  ]   ../../platform/50D.109/version.bin
[ VERSION  ]   ../../platform/50D.109/version.c
[ CC       ]   version.o
make -C ../../tcc
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/tjrobinson/magic-lantern/tcc'
make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/tjrobinson/magic-lantern/tcc'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../../src/libs/dietlib-0.33-Os/dietlibc.a', needed by `strrchr.o'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tjrobinson/magic-lantern/platform/50D.109'
make: *** [50D] Error 2

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do a 'make clean' before 'make' and I recommend using a pre-built compiler if you're not already: https://launchpad.net/gcc-arm-embedded

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Update: compilation problems now solved

Thanks, I've got a bit further using that. Now onto this...

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[ AR       ]   newlib-libc.a
[ CP       ]   newlib-libm.a
[ CP       ]   gcc-libgcc.a
[ LD       ]   magiclantern
debug.o: In function `stub_test_task':
debug.c:(.text+0x4530): undefined reference to `printf'
debug.c:(.text+0x4540): undefined reference to `printf'
debug.c:(.text+0x4564): undefined reference to `printf'
exmem.o: In function `_srm_malloc_suite':
exmem.c:(.text+0x650): undefined reference to `printf'
exmem.c:(.text+0x708): undefined reference to `printf'
exmem.o:exmem.c:(.text+0x7b0): more undefined references to `printf' follow
dm-spy.o: In function `debug_intercept':
dm-spy.c:(.text+0x178): undefined reference to `dm_spy_extra_install'
dm-spy.c:(.text+0x1a4): undefined reference to `dm_spy_extra_uninstall'
make[1]: *** [magiclantern] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/tjrobinson/magic-lantern/platform/60D.111'
make: *** [60D] Error 2

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Update: blink video available below

Ok, progress. I've finally built an autoexec.bin from the dm-spy-experiments branch. I get a solid light though, no blinking. Anything specific I should check?

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Branch: dm-spy-experiments
Revision: 11899
Changeset: 6caaf883e18f3745063ffd480ab37e4230275517 [6caaf883e18f]

Steps:
  • make clean
  • make
  • (inside platform/60D.111) make zip
  • copy zip contents to SD card
  • usual EOSCard.exe steps, remove battery, etc

Here's the Makefile.user I'm using under Cygwin on Windows:

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# Supported camera models
SUPPORTED_MODELS:=60D

# Supported camera models for "UNIFIED" builds (Digic IV only)
SUPPORTED_UNIFIED_MODELS:=60D

# GCC-related stuff
# for yagarto or the official ARM toolchain use ARM_ABI=none-eabi otherwise use ARM_ABI=elf
ARM_ABI=none-eabi
GCC_VERSION=-4.8.4
ARM_PATH=/cygdrive/c/Progra~2/GNU/4.82014q3

# Intercept all DebugMsg's
CONFIG_DEBUG_INTERCEPT = y
CONFIG_DEBUG_INTERCEPT_STARTUP = y
CONFIG_DEBUG_INTERCEPT_STARTUP_BLINK = y

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Update: blink video available below

I've defined PRINT_EACH_MESSAGE in dm-spy.c and am now seeing some blinking - no sign of the 5 synchronization blinks, but something at last!

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Blink video, taken by a Canon compact camera in 240fps mode, 1/8th normal speed, (the only other camera I have access to at the moment):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/ceo3v2d3v6ovgmh/blinkvideo1.mov?dl=0

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I've watched the video a few times and tried to decode it manually, and it appears to just be showing the 0xA5 pattern five times - no actual debug messages.

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Can anyone suggest what I should try next?

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Contact a1ex, get in line and hope his connection problems will disappear soon.
http://www.magiclantern.fm/forum/index.php?topic=4105.msg130566#msg130566

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Thanks, didn't realise it was his personal connection that was struggling.

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I think it's time to call it quits :(

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Why does everyone suspect ML as the cause of a bricked camera. send it back to Canon.
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